Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes Discusses Ray Epps - Call Day 2

⁣Stewart Rhodes: I saw the video of the night before and afterward, on the day of, absolutely. Ray Epps was our chapter president in Arizona many years ago. I believe he left the Oath Keepers in 2014. I haven’t heard from him since. So, you are asking me, ‘What do I think about him?’ I don’t know. I just don’t. I don’t know if he’s just an idiot or if he was someone who was told to go do that by someone else. It could be a little bit of both. It could be that he’s just easily manipulated and somebody manipulated him. I don’t know. It could be an FBI provocateur got in his ear. My memory of him back in the day was that he was well-intending but not the brightest bulb on the tree.